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  The Gentile Times Reconsidered (607 B.C.E.) -Part A1 - Jeremiah 25:10-12 Reviewed

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the last three to four months, i have spent a great deal of time sinking my teeth into various critical biblical commentaries and lexicons.

  naturally, after beginning to research "the truth about the truth" one of the most commonplace yet controversial arguments revolve around the "gentile times" doctrine (i.e.

  the application of the seven times of daniel 4 from 607 b.c.e.

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  Nabonidus and his son were killed in 539 BC.... 607 BC to 539 BC = 68 years
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  JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

  so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

  be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

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  This book exposed 3 things that made me wake up...

  1) The Watchtower has forcefully given itself credit for 2,520-year (7 Times of Gentiles) calculation when, in fact, this calculation was made at least 50 years before the Watchtower even existed. In the 2010 DVD Faith In Action, Anthony Morris even states "The fact that they (the Bible Students) were able to pinpoint that year is just phenomenal." What he doesn't mention is that John Aquila Brown was peddling this 7-Times calculation 50 years before the Watchtower was even founded and that several religions were looking at 1912, 1913, 1916, 1917, etc. as the year for Armageddon. The Bible Students chose October 1914 but then latched on to WWI (which started in July 1914) as proof that they were right. Right about what?

  2) Jeremiah 25:11 unambiguously mentions 70 years of servitude. It also mentions the word "desolation" but DOES NOT say how long that desolation would last. However, the Watchtower has chosen to completely ignore the word SERVITUDE and substitutes it with the word desolation so that their false doctrine about 607-1914 will at least make some sense. They do this because they know that there was no servitude after 539 since Nabonidus and his son Belshezar were killed in that year. I hate to state the obvious, but that would mean 68 years of servitude (2 years short of 70).

  3) The Watchtower has a long history of taking secular sources completely out of context to prove that they are right about this 2,520-year speculative calculation. They do this despite Jesus' reminder about speculating on things that are under God's jurisdiction (see Acts 1:7).

  Jonsson hit the nail on the head with this book.
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  What do you mean?! I ALWAYS go to the beach after service and wear long pants and button up shirts while I play a game in the sand with my family! Sometimes I wear button up long sleeve shirts too!

  by Crisis of Conscience in

  1. social
  2. humour

  the wts likes to imply how jws should dress in and outside of the hall.

  you always want to set an example.. so i couldn't help but share this beauty in the january 15th, 2013, study edition of the watchtower.

  i always go to the beach like this!

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  Don't you guys know that wearing long sleeve shirts and long trousers is part of Beach Cricket etiquette? Sheesh...
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  If JW Missionaries Were Abducted By Terrorists How Would The Watchtower Society Handle It?

  by minimus in

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  what do you think?.

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  A) They will do NOTHING.

  or

  B) They will arrange to send the terrorists an obscene amount of money and then publish a WT article about how God's angels or his holy spirit had a hand in setting them free simply because they were faithful JWs. (It'll be an investment in recruitment marketing)

  But in this economy, I think they'll just go with option A.
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  Bethel Tour anyone? Stay at any of these hotels. Pay with your credit card, but the Bethel Branch will get the "Reward Points" NOT YOU !!!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  atlantis... you rock !!!.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/z9ogx0.

  by the way... notice how this boe warns elders not to share this "confidential" info with hotel personnel.... these guys are such scammers..

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  Atlantis... you rock !!!

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/z9ogx0

  By the way... Notice how this BOE warns elders NOT to share this "confidential" info with hotel personnel...

  These guys are such scammers.
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  What activity or dream did you put off till the New System?

  by nochoice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after reading the thread about jw kids getting gifts all year and not needing christmas, i thought about how i was told there would be plenty of toys in the new system.

  i was told that on my birthday too.

  and now i started thinking about all the things i justified suffering growing up as a kid, and then a teenager, and then an adult, because it would be better in the new system.

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  Having kids... Now it's too late for my wife and I... even if we adopt, it would be too much right now...
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  AUSTRALIA: Migration Scam Being Operated by Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jw leaks has updated their "human rights" page with hundreds of pages of documents released, all relating to 19 separate court cases involving jehovah's witnesses conducted through the european court of human rights and also the australian refugee tribunal.. .

  the 9 cases that were run through the australian refugee tribunal by the jehovah's witnesses all came from lebanon.. .

  one former member of jehovah's witnesses, who advised on a number of refugee and migration cases for jehovah's witnesses and the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, and provided the documents and background information (yet to be published) to jw leaks, stated:.

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  Financially, there must be a lot be gained by the Watchtower Corporation when they're now engaging in illegal human smuggling and illegally obtained work visas... this should get interesting...
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  GRRRRRRRR

  by Tameria2001 in

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  i am in a very rotten mood and i am very pissed off today.

  i just want to smack a certain someone right now.. now let me back up and explain why.

  my husband was laid off from his job, but that is not why im angry.

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  That was a highly inappropriate comment by that bank employee.
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  JW's are the slowest walkers in the world

  by Unclepenn1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  that's all i wanted to say.

  you can always spot them by the 'less than 1/2 miles per hour' they stroll down the street.

  salvation by the hour.

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  I think this comes from every JW's progressive realization that it's really all about reporting time. I've seen it over and over... Full speed ahead just after baptism and, after less than a year, they'll slowed down... all the way down to the "Pioneer Pace" (.0001914 kph)
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  Cubans???

  by DesirousOfChange in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so.....a jw friend brought me a $12.00 cuban cigar.. what's the big deal??

  as far as i can tell, yuch!.

  what am i missing?.

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  I am not a cigar expert by any means but I find that cuban cigars are way over-rated... Dominican Monte Cristos or Romeo y Julietta's are better IMHO... that's not to say that cuban cigars aren't good... I just think you can get better cigars for the money... by the way, for an occasional "premium cigar", may I suggest the Nicaraguan Padron...

  Anyways, I think that some people just tend to over-rate things that are illegal to obtain and then word-of-mouth about these illegal items tends to amplify the actual quality of such items... just saying...